The next part of the interview is the status of being a teacher. In part, it is reflected in pay, but I think Espiner overestimates the importance of money in status. When I trained to be a teacher, money was important but not the most important thing. I do not know any teacher who is in the job because they want to make lots of money. The high points of teaching are hard to match – it does however take a whole lot of hard slog to get there.
Espiner also pushes Tolley on why there are fewer men in the profession than in the past. Tolley points to the lack of status it has. Status is referred to, but not defined. It is worth pointing out that it is one of the situations where if the situation were reversed, there may have been far more attention paid to the gender imbalance. It is also interesting to remember that at the beginning of the segment, Tolley is introduced as the first female Minister of Education. Quite noteworthy for a sector that has been dominated by women for quite some time isn’t it?
The entry requirements into the profession are brought up. At the moment on paper, one needs a three year ordinary bachelor’s degree aligned with a school subject (eg you need some maths in your degree to apply to be a maths teacher), a minimum standard of literacy in English or Māori, and referees to affirm you have certain qualities suitable to the profession to apply. You are interviewed, and if they deem you have the right motivation for doing teaching, communication skills and your credentials and police records check out, you are admitted to the programme.
These requirements sound reasonable – but they are not much more than any other job, really. Other professions with high status like medicine or law are known for their highly competitive grade cutoffs for example. However, that is not to say institutions let anyone into their teacher education programmes – when I applied for entry into two teachers’ colleges I was rejected by one of them.
Tolley refers to proposals like needing a Masters degree or fast track programmes not having universal agreement, and said she agrees with the sector for needing higher entry requirements. If there is universal agreement on that, I wonder if changes will be formally enacted. As far as I know there is nothing barring institutions setting as high a bar as they want.
National Standards once again come up. Espiner points out that the high membership teacher unions are against it, and points out that the $36 million only works out to be $60 per child, per year. He’s quite prepared with this figure and tries to draw more out from her on it. He then asks the question on what the Minister could do with basically a dollar a child a day, quite reminiscent of those charity ads for sponsoring malnourished children.
The political reality is, no extra spending is ever going to be given carte blanche to anything. It will always be part of a highly targeted initiative so that politicians can say how wonderful programme X is. As a result of the Tomorrow’s Schools reforms way back in the 1980s, schools are highly devolved so specific targeted programmes are the only way to visibly increase education spending. Tolley appears confident in explaining ways in which limited money is being shuffled around to address the government’s priorities.
The last thing I’ll mention is Espiner breaks down the 80 percent figure Tolley quotes on the takeup rate on the standards, Espiner saying that’s really only 19 percent, with those identified as being well on track. Tolley was calm in explaining those 19 percent were already doing things like the policy anyway and only had to make minor tweaks. She says the rest had to make major changes to get to where they were. She also punts other problems into touch saying that it will take time for data to appear in any case. Other things in the debate have not really progressed and have already been mentioned elsewhere.
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