The Ministry has released a summary of feedback received from consultation. Anne Tolley also appeared on Q+A and spoke about them last Sunday week.
On the response page, under the Design of Standards heading the following made me laugh at first
The mathematics standards are being reorganised to reflect the strands in the mathematics and statistics learning area of The New Zealand Curriculum.
because it sounds so simple and innocent at first – but will cause great nightmares for all the teachers.
The panel discussion following Tolley’s interview was interesting to watch. Kate Gainsford, president of the PPTA, could have easily launched militantly into Tolley but seemed to be far more diplomatic. It is difficult to rail against something which has just been described as very “reasonable”, and since the finer detail was not probed, she didn’t get a good chance to advocate against the National Standards on behalf of her primary union colleagues. Tolley did well politically by being “consistent” and “on message”. Gainsford was right though, we did need to hear more detail on “growing the pig” rather than just “weighing” it.
Holmes in my opinion was very good in facilitating panel discussion this time. Here he manages to elicit a side of Gainsford I don’t think many people in the public have seen before. Normally the public only ever see her tearing into the government savagely (you could argue the case that any non-Labour minister gets more) and getting media attention for things like teacher strikes. This excerpt is long, illustrates the political versus educational reality but shows the Gainsford the person behind the union line.
PAUL: There are one or two principals I think who’ve told us during the week well we don’t think she’s on top of her portfolio, but she sounded like when she said she’s been surrounded by teachers all her life, that resonated well. That had good credibility. She seems to like teachers. Here’s a clip on what she was saying about teachers:
SOUNDBITE: Well I’ve been a parent of three children and I’m a grandmother of two. So I’ve had three children go through the education system and I’ve also got a family of teachers so I’ve lived with education all my life.
PAUL: Now, that answer had credibility Kate?
KATE: There were some vital bits missing I believe – a passion for education and a deep knowledge of education. I believe the minister, politically…
PAUL: She’s a mother and a grandmother – she’s put three kids through school, what more does she need to know about education?
KATE: Well, it’s a highly technical area isn’t it Mr Creech – you’d be able to agree with that…
PAUL: Do only teachers know about education?
KATE: Not at all, not all and we’ve had that argument way back in the 80s and 90s that provide and capture thing. But I would just like to comment on what you were asking before about the political nature of what we were listening to. I believe this Minister is frequently consistent and on message, we have met those sound bites consistently since her appointment about the fiscal environment, about priorities….
PAUL: We’ve all heard the same things for 20 years from politicians…
KATE: But there is a layer underneath that isn’t there? There’s a layer underneath that is of critical importance and it’s that detailed, technical, educational knowledge that’s important to get right.
PAUL: I don’t necessarily want to be Anne Tolley’s champion but I like what she said about attracting the best people into teaching, retention of teachers.
KATE: If she had trained and qualified as a teacher then she’d be fitting in with our policy perfectly. She could be a member.
The emphasis in the above is my own. Because nobody has been able to get Tolley off message in regards to Adult Community Education cuts, like she said are here to say. I think the cuts will only be reversed if the government can be convinced that it will cost votes.
Anne Tolley was reciprocally diplomatic in my opinion. Consider the following interview excerpt:
PAUL Couple of quick ones – how do you rate New Zealand teachers?
ANNE I think we’ve got some fantastic teachers.
PAUL How do you get on with them?
ANNE Reasonably well.
PAUL How are you getting on with the principals?
ANNE Um, quite a lot of them are being very constructive. Look there’s always some who don’t like what you’re doing for a variety of reasons.
The exchange seemed a bit awkward, particularly the last comment. It would appear that she was trying to dodge the question. But there isn’t a lot she can really do. What would you say if you are a National Minister when 90%+ of teachers and principals belong to unions that are left leaning politically?
PAUL: There are one or two principals I think who’ve told us during the week well we don’t think she’s on top of her portfolio, but she sounded like when she said she’s been surrounded by teachers all her life, that resonated well. That had good credibility. She seems to like teachers. Here’s a clip on what she was saying about teachers:
SOUNDBITE: Well I’ve been a parent of three children and I’m a grandmother of two. So I’ve had three children go through the education system and I’ve also got a family of teachers so I’ve lived with education all my life.
PAUL: Now, that answer had credibility Kate?
KATE: There were some vital bits missing I believe – a passion for education and a deep knowledge of education. I believe the minister, politically…
PAUL: She’s a mother and a grandmother – she’s put three kids through school, what more does she need to know about education?
KATE: Well, it’s a highly technical area isn’t it Mr Creech – you’d be able to agree with that…
PAUL: Do only teachers know about education?
KATE: Not at all, not all and we’ve had that argument way back in the 80s and 90s that
provide and capture thing. But I would just like to comment on what you were asking before about the political nature of what we were listening to. I believe this Minister is frequently consistent and on message, we have met those sound bites consistently since her appointment about the fiscal environment, about priorities….
PAUL: We’ve all heard the same things for 20 years from politicians…
KATE: But there is a layer underneath that isn’t there? There’s a layer underneath that is of critical importance and it’s that detailed, technical, educational knowledge that’s important to get right.
PAUL: I don’t necessarily want to be Anne Tolley’s champion but I like what she said about attracting the best people into teaching, retention of teachers.
KATE: If she had trained and qualified as a teacher then she’d be fitting in with our policy perfectly. She could be a me